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Because Jesus rode a donkey.
House Divided
adele87 wrote in homos4god
I've been getting annoyed by the legalistic crap from other Christian communities (notice I said legalistic, not conservative, there is a difference).

Everyone, "Jew or Greek, Slave or Free" Man, Woman or Child (brownie points if you catch the reference) can join. It does not matter if you are Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, or Muslim. If you are Christian maybe you want more fellowship. If you are a non-Christian maybe you want to understand this weird cosmic-Jewish zombie the Christians worship, so maybe you have questions. It does not matter, you are welcome here.

However, this group shares the beliefs of the ELCA, the Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian (USA) and other such churches. This group is on the moderate to liberal side of Christianity. If that makes you uncomfortable it is probably wise to not join.

If you say feminists, gay/lesbians, ordained women and the like are going to hell and want to start flame wars and openly say that in this community, you WILL be banned.

Anyway, here it is!


Brought to you by myself and the lovely evilnel

x-posted everywhere.

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I understand your point, Adele. nfortunately, the letter of the law has become more important than the spirit. I'm more conservative in my theology but I'm total opposed to legalism. Many people have been killed and discriminated against because of it.

That letter of the law was what Jesus was talking about.

You can still join. The community is just made for christians who aren't LEGALISTIC. I'm fairly conservative in theology too. Like I am not for premarital sex or abortion (but I also think it's not the church's place to tell a woman what to do with her body). I think gay marriage is okay though -- it's not hurting anyone, and if they love each other, what's the big deal?

First off, I love you. This may sound critical, if I didn't care I wouldn't bother, would I? Please just pray on it.

Where do you get your standards from? Salvation from sin is not a license to sin and gay sex is certainly sin. As long as you identify as glbtwxyz you will remain an abomination to God.

What can I say to encourage you to accept ALL of God's Word?

We should feel awful for what we've done against God and each other, right? Thats conviction. We should have faith that our sin is atoned for by Jesus. That's salvation. We should heed Jesus' words, because we love Him.

This is my opinion, please consider it genuinely.

God bless.

I went to a pretty liberal seminary, that's how.

I'm not even sure how to speak about the subject without seeming like I'm being all judgemental-y, but here it goes.

Your answer is ... incomplete. I asked where you get your standards from and your answer was 'a pretty liberal seminary'. To be frank, it doesn't matter what seminary you attended, our standards still come from God's Word.

God's Word is not confusion, but the teachings of men are. You, me, everyone has been deceived in so many ways, there are false bibles, false doctrines, appointed bishops, priests etc., all of which, in one way or another pulls us away from what God says, over to what a man said.

If you're trying to juggle both a GBLT lifestyle/orientation AND follow Jesus, you are doomed to failure. Not because I say so, but because Jesus was so speciific, 'no one comes to the Father except through Me', 'go, and sin no more'...

Of course we still sin, despite our best efforts to 'pray it away', because we're still sinners.

Mini-sermon starts here: Remember, we're not sinners because we sin, we sin because we're sinners. Until we are removed from the flesh, we are subject to temptation and sin. That's what we all wait for, right? Rapture, resurrection etc. Again, if we need to know what to do, we can turn to God's Word and we're bound to bump into the word 'repent' eventually. :)

When Jesus is speaking to the seven churches, he said this to the church of Laodicea, 'you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked'. That's 'Christianity' - NOW. (which is why I shout 'the sky IS falling') We're the one's who Jesus is admonishing. All of us. We need to get like Philadelphia (think Little House of the Prairie) so we can be spared the tribulation that is coming on the whole world.

Laodicea had lukewarm water that made people vomit which is why God used it as an example for us. He told us that if we don't repent, WE will be vomited (literally puked) out of God's mouth. After that, half-hour of silence in Heaven and then the trumpets start blowing. None of us want to be here for that.

Look at what the world is doing. Don't do that.

God Bless.

I get really terrified of ministers that claim to have the cornerstone on what is or isn't Christianity or God's word. Seriously, you aren't looking like a competent minister.

Finally, if you really gave a care about me (which you are arguing you do with your "Christian love" stuff) you would have looked at my profile. I haven't updated it in a while, but regardless - I'm in social work. What does that mean? That means I work with vulnerable populations every day and 1) it's against the law for me to go preaching at them, 2) even if it wasn't, it's against my professional code of ethics to do so, 3) and even if that wasn't true, the last thing traumatized people need is me begging them to go worship someone they don't believe in or have lost hope in.

Part of the reason I practice liberal Christianity is it helps me be in a good place for my clients. YOU are not being Christian by suggesting I follow your "better" version of the faith. Seriously, back off. I'm not being disrespectful to you. You are being disrespectful to me. And most important, this conversation is years old. Way to bring an old conversation back from the dead.

But you did jab at one of my major triggers. Seriously, leave me alone. Part of the reason I am in my profession is because of my faith and I don't need ministers claiming they know the bible better than I do. Everyone feels God's love differently. I'm not hurting you. Go away.

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